Baby Won't Nap Alone

by Brandi
(Kansas)

My daughter is almost 4 1/2 months old and a very alert, happy baby most of the time. Up to this time I have carried her in a sling/Ergo all day and she would nurse, nap and do everything in there while I carried her around.

She also co-sleeps with my husband and I. Lately, I have noticed as she is getting older that she won't nap for very long periods of time while in the Ergo. I seem to wake her up with my activities, to where she will only stay asleep for maybe 20- 30 minutes, if that long even.

So I have started trying to put her down for naps.... and that has not gone well at all. I have been nursing her to sleep in bed (like I do at night), and then trying to sneak away - but she usually wakes right back up once I'm gone. The same thing happens at night... she will only stay asleep if she is right next to me (usually constantly latched on..).

I don't mind co-sleeping but it's getting to the point that it would be nice to have some quiet time while she sleeps/naps by herself. Right now I am going to bed with her at 8pm because she is ready, and most of the time I have to stay in bed for fear of her waking (it's not very conducive to spending some quality time with hubby after work).

Anyway, I am wondering what you would do to develop better sleep habits and patterns at this stage? Am I just being too paranoid and selfish, and is this normal for her age?

I guess I just want her to have good habits as she gets older, like taking naps without a fuss and having to constantly nurse while she sleeps.

Sorry for the long explanation, I am just currently very exhausted trying to stick to my instincts of attachment parenting while still having a marriage and some time to myself.

Thank You in advance!!

Answer:

Hi Brandi,

I do think that her sleeping habits when she's older will be quite a bit different than in infancy, but I also don't think it's unreasonable to help her develop some good ones now ;)

She is just past the newborn stage, so it's normal to see her sleeping habits start to change and it's also pretty normal to want to try and get her into some more independent sleep habits, if that's what you want to do.

I would start by focusing on bedtime before naptime. I think the best way to start is always by developing a strong routine around bedtime - even with a baby as young as she is, it's beneficial and she picks up on and gets used to patterns in her day. If you always use the same routine, she'll associate it with bedtime.

It could involve a quick bath, fresh pajamas, and you rocking and singing to her. Whatever you desire.

I think it's hard to get a baby to not nurse to sleep at such a young age, but it's often helpful to nurse her a little bit before bedtime - such as at the start of the bedtime routine - then put her down awake. This helps her start to be able to sleep without always having to be nursing.

Take a look at this report for more detail on setting up a baby sleep routine.

With such a young baby I would lay her down in a crib / cosleeper / Pack N Play / etc. in a room close to where I was going to be. With my first three kids this was in my bedroom because it was just off the den where I was at night. With Galen, however, it was in the den outside our office because the bedroom was upstairs. We definitely found he needed to be in another room, however. He wouldn't sleep in the room with us.

But pick somewhere that will be a consistent room. You can put her down there initially and bring her to bed with you when you go to bed, or when she wakes.

Remember that changing sleep habits takes time. You won't ever see a change overnight ;) Generally I've found it takes at least two weeks if you want to work into it gently.

At her age I would put her down and then be right there with her. You can make soothing "shhh" sounds, pat her back, etc.

I have always felt comfortable with leaving a baby that is just "fussing" in the bed, simply making "shhh" sounds and sometimes rubbing their backs. But if the baby is crying I have picked him up, comforted him, then put him back down again.

I would either stay just beside her until she falls asleep, or do something around the room - where she can see you - until she falls asleep. If you're beside her you can work on slowly moving away a little more each night.

This is what I did with Galen. At this point I still sit in the room with him for the 5-10 minutes it takes him to go to sleep; I just read to him.

For really thorough details on these two methods and a lot more practical tips I recommend The Baby Sleep Solution which worked very well for us :)

Once you have her used to bedtime you can work on naps in the same way - work towards getting her used to not nursing to sleep before a nap, then put her down drowsy but not quite asleep.

Some moms are able to get their babies to nap independently for all of their naps. I have never been able to get mine to nap by themselves for their morning nap. I haven't minded being able to read or something while they nurse through that nap, so I haven't made too much effort. But I have wanted an independent afternoon nap, so I've worked towards that using the ideas I gave above.

Expect it to take some time, because changing sleep habits and routines almost always does, but it is possible to do so gently. Best of luck with your little one, and hopefully you'll be getting a little more "grownup time" in the evenings soon!

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Baby Won't Nap Alone

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May 06, 2010
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Thank You!
by: Brandi

Thank you so much for your advice and time!
Do you think it would be better to try to put her to sleep in her 'own' bed when I am trying to get her to sleep alone? She is our first born, and we didn't invest in a crib or anything as of yet as I knew I wanted to practice co-sleeping with her. But I am wondering if trying to put her down by herself in our bed (with a bed rail) makes a difference in how she re-acts, as she expects to have mom with her there?
Thanks so much for your time, I really appreciate it!

May 06, 2010
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by: Kristen

Hi Brandi,

You're welcome, and I'm glad you found my thoughts helpful!

We have never had a crib, either. With my first two I was able to put them in bed with a bed rail and I felt OK doing that because my bedroom was right off the den where I was at when they were sleeping.

With Brennan I got a Pack N Play which had a bassinet in it. I really liked that. I had it set up in the den and I could put Brennan down for naps and bedtime in that (he would go to sleep in the den with me).

With Galen we have an Amby and we still have a Pack N Play. We kept the Amby downstairs a long time since our bedroom is upstairs since we stayed downstairs for awhile in the evening. We had to put Galen in the next room over because he, unlike Brennan, wouldn't sleep in the same room we were in, but I still wanted him close.

I took both Brennan and Galen to bed with me when I went to bed, and at around 12 months or so with both of them I moved their bed to my room to start the night off there.

The Pack N Play is used at naptimes now (bassinet addition at first, but not now since he's too big for it!)

Now that I've had a bassinet for putting the baby down alone in, I like that option best. I like it because I feel pretty sure the baby is safe in there, and I like having my bed open for a little cuddling with Scott before we bring the little one to bed :)

Plus, many babies will start to sleep through more of the night in their own bed naturally as they get older and I've always found that nice.

Galen's bed is still in our room so he's still right there with us at night and I like that.

So that's just my opinion - once I'm ready to have baby starting the night out without me in bed, I like to put him/her down in their own bed, either in my room, or very close to me out front.

Lots of families make different choices as far as cosleeping and separate beds go, but that's how things have worked with my babies!

Best of luck with your little one!

May 21, 2010
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there is hope!
by: Annelise

Hi Brandi,

I wanted to write sooner but just couldn't get to it! First of all, I very much relate to what you are going through as I went through the exact same thing with my baby. He is currently 8 months old and sleep is a still an ongoing project for us, but things have changed significantly since the earlier months.

I really did have the same thing happening as you. I could not leave the room at any time when my son was sleeping. He was sleeping in our bed so I went to bed with him at 6:30, every night, for about 6 months! I also layed down for every nap with him, 3 to 5 times a day! Needless to say it took a toll on my marriage, and we are still working on repairing it now.

Anyways, the approach I took to helping my son sleep somewhat independently was one of tiny steps which have amounted to noticeable change. I started with naps. Basically bit by bit I began to remove myself from him physically, making such small changes that he didn't really notice. For example, take my hand off his back, then my arm the next day, then the other hand the next day, etc... If at any time he seemed to be disturbed then I go back a step but then continue on. Slowly I was able to get to the point of lying beside him but not touching him. Then each nap I moved myself a bit further away from him until there was no more bed left. I then sat beside the bed, then at the end of the bed, then outside the door, etc... All this took weeks if not months, but it worked. It was an exciting accomplishment when I was able to put him down in our bed then leave the room. Just to mention as well that after about 3 or 4 months of age his naps also became short, and he is still basically a 30 minute napper. Occasionally he will sleep longer and that is a shocker when it happens!

Please go to my next comment to get the remainder of my message! Apparently I am long winded! I think I am just passionate about this as I so much empathize with you!


May 21, 2010
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by: Annelise

After this process with naps was working well I began to implement the same process with the evening. It has gotten me to the point now that I can put him down at 6:30 and leave the room. He still wakes up a few times between the time I put him down and when I go to bed, but I just go in an parent him back to sleep then I can leave again. We have a video monitor which I love as I can see if he's actually coming to full wakefulness or just turning over.

The other important part of the mix for us is that we sidecarred a crib to our bed. Once he was napping and evening sleeping well alone we started using the sidecarred crib. As he is crawling now this provides a bit more safety and I make a pillow wall on the side that is open to our bed which I of course dismantle when I go to bed so I can have some cuddling time throughout the night! The sidecarred crib also allows my husband I to have our own space while at the same time it allows me to easily access my son for nursing/comforting in the night.

This approach worked well for me overall because I didn't want to do anything too drastic and disturbing for my son. Although it has been a slow process I am glad I did it this way as I was comfortable and so was my son. He is still not an amazing sleeper, waking up many times during the night, but I am so grateful for being able to put him down for naps and at his bedtime. The little bit of me time and husband time and chore time I now have is well worth it.

I wish you well on this journey and would love to hear how things go for you. Knowing just how you feel right now you have all my empathy and I can tell you that there is hope! One step at a time and you will surely see changes.

Annelise


May 29, 2010
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Thanks!
by: Brandi

Annelise,
Thank you so much for your encouragement! It makes me feel so much better knowing that I'm not the only one that has had this issue with my baby! This may seem like an obvious question, but I was wondering if you laid your son down awake or if you allowed him to nurse himself to sleep then laid him down in bed? My daughter likes to nurse in bed with me to go to sleep. I have tried putting her down awake, but tired, and just laying down with her but she almost instantly cries when laid down like that. So I'm trying to figure out how to transition from always having to be nursing to sleep. We have good days and bad napping days but I'm encouraged by all of the stories that we will get through this! Last week, my poor babe caught a cold so we put our nap training on hold for her to get over that first, but I hope to start working with her this week.... I pray all goes well!
Again, THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!!!

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