Travelling long distance with a toddler and 5 month old - tips? And loss of libido

by Renee
(London)

I've traveled a bit with 1st baby, from London to Australia return & around Europe. It was easy, I used a herbal blend of Valerian, Passionflower hops and Chamomile which kept our first son calm - I've really enjoyed traveling with him.

I'm now going home for a bit of an emergency (family) and need to take a 2.7 year old and a 5 month old home. I'm concerned that 25 hours transit will be difficult with 2 children.

Our 2nd boy is a good sleeper but he is 5 months. By that time with our first we had traveled to Australia and back, and gone to France twice and Iceland. Our 5 month old firstborn was a veteran. Going now with a big trip for little one and a big trip again for an older toddler, with more energy and during the day (we've always booked a long haul over night flight) Any tips?

Also, Since having the children I've lost my libido. Its not that I don't want to have sex with my husband, I want to, I just don't have the drive. Nothing turns me on. Breasts are no go. Not because I'm squeamish because of breastfeeding, we are both natural about that...I just simply don't like the stuff I used to?

Anything natural I can take, any advice? If not, I guess I'll see my GP and go from there.

So you see I want to "want" sex, not do it out of obligation. I want to get it right, I just dont know how, or why, Ive gone so off it.

Answer:

I haven't done any long flights with children, but we make big trips every year (about 2 days in the car).

I don't think it's too hard, but advance planning is helpful.

5 month olds are still pretty easy to travel with, so I wouldn't worry much about it. I would have all the standards - plenty of fresh nappies, fresh outfits, etc. A toy or two may be helpful, though my five-month-olds were never much impressed by toys!

I would most definitely have a baby carrier that your little one likes. If your baby sleeps well, an overnight flight may be best because hopefully he will sleep for a large portion of the flight. You can try and keep his bedtime routine as much the same on the the plane as you can, though if you give a bath or something obviously that won't happen. If it comes down to it, you can always pop him in the carrier and walk with him in the aisle of the plane.

Once you reach your destination I think things will be easier as you'll be able to get his routine similar to what he's used to and help him settle in. If you're taking a travel bed it may be good to have him sleep in that some before you leave home.

I've done most of my trips with young children. What has worked well for us is to have a bag for each little one. I fill this bag up with non-messy things for them to enjoy on the trip. Books, small toys, those markers that color only on special paper, etc. I keep an eye out for small, age-appropriate toys to collect here and there. I keep these put away - my little ones have never played with them (well, now they get some of the same ones only when we travel). I think this helps keep the toys interesting and exciting.


I also put a few things away in my bag, to bring out if one of the kids is having a really hard time, and a fresh new item may buy some time. I carry a few books with my things, too, to read out loud. Books on CD/MP3 are also good if your child will listen to headphones.

Again, the overnight flight may be helpful as your toddler can sleep. Then you can get more to his normal routine once you've arrived.

If he won't sleep, again, I would have him walk the aisle on the plane regularly. When we take our drives (about 8 hours a day for 2 days), we generally stop every 2 hours to let the kids stretch their legs at an auto rest stop.

I also tend to restrict snacks to stops (so every couple of hours). Though if on a plane, I would nurse the baby on demand.

Re: Libido

First, is there any pain that is causing you to feel hesitant? Using a lubricant and/or doing some perineal massage can help get rid of pain so actual lovemaking is enjoyable again.

Next, if there are some things that don't turn you on anymore, that's OK. It's also fine to experiment and find what does turn you on! I know many moms find that breasts are very different for them after pregnancy (and I do think it's pregnancy - not really nursing - that causes the changes).

See if trying different things helps.

Many women also find that if they approach time with their partner with a focus on pleasuring him they end up getting turned on themselves. So rather than looking at it like an obligation, they just focus on being able to give him pleasure. It's remarkable how focusing on someone else can be very rewarding.

A good women's herbal blend may be helpful, too, because it can help balance hormones and restore libido. Be sure you check and make sure any herbs in the tea/supplement are safe for breastfeeding.

Along the lines of hormones, since your little man is just 5 months, there's a good chance that your cycles haven't started again yet, or normalized. Hormones have a powerful role in libido and if you're not cycling again it's pretty natural that you won't feel as much desire. Your hormones are still focused very much on "mothering."

As I noted above, moms in this situation often find that simply focusing on helping their partner find enjoyment end up greatly enjoying lovemaking themselves. And don't be afraid to experiment and try new positions and different ways to initiate time together. Maybe having your man get both boys to sleep while you relax and have a cup of tea is what does it for you nowadays ;)

Best of luck on your trip and let me know if I can help with anything else!

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More on long distance flights London to Australia
by: Anonymous

I have done the London - Sydney return trip twice, ie four separate legs, with admittedly, only one active little boy, aged 5 and 6 months, and then 10 and 12 months. Three of the four individual legs I was travelling alone with my little one, and found people were actually quite helpful and understanding.

The flights were great. What was harder was the jetlag, I found. Hope you'll have some family help (grandmother??) to help when you're tired and your kids are waking at weird hours. Sleep when they sleep is good advice, although hard to do sometimes.

For the flights itself, I agree: Definitely good advice to have a bag of suitable toys they can play with, but our boy also enjoyed the headphones and remote control for the inflight entertainment!!

We normally have him sleep in a grobag sleeping bag, so I took that onboard, along with his most customary cot toy. We didn't bother with kids meal food as we'd done baby led weaning with him, so he was used to eating our food and we just shared ours with him, as you are always given more food than you need on long haul flights.

If you manage to prebook or be allocated upon checkin either a bassinet or a "car seat" type harness berth, which Qantas does for slightly older kids, be aware that the flight crew may well try to make you wake and move your sleeping child or children out of their cozy sleeping spots when the fasten seatbelt signs come on. I successfully argued with the head steward that he be left to sleep until or unless it became really really turbulent because the bassinets have a restraining "net" belt over the top of them and the reclining partly sitting up harness thing has them belted in as well.

Cathay Pacific has a brilliant reputation viz how child friendly its cabin crew are. I've not flown them yet but friends with toddlers raved about how helpful they were and how genuinely they seemed to like the children and be interested in them, rather than treating them as a nuisance. Having said that, Qantas and BA staff were fine with my little boy. It probably helped that he looks cute, smiles a lot, and I kept him nicely dressed and neat and tidy. Good luck and Bon Voyage!

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Libido question
by: DYLAN

One of the most powerful, and safe at any stage of motherhood, sexual tonics is the Peruvian root Maca. It has several functions on the endocrine system. Helps normalize hormonal function-(including the thyroid), increases sexual sensation and desire, provides greater stamina and energy (essential for super moms!), helps women carry to term, stimulates muscle growth, the list goes on and on... Use it like ginseng-cycle two weeks on then a week off, as your body will normalize and then need 'a break'. You can get the extract in capsule form at any health food store-I recommend it as it's quite bitter by itself (which could certainly be masked in a smoothie). My wife and I used maca for several months after she went off her pill, and we got pregnant IMMEDIATELY. Another of my friends and his partner also used it and got pregnant within two months. It is actually a part of established Peruvian medical practice and fully tested. It's good for both partners-but you might want to wait until you 'catch up' to your partner prior to giving it to him!:)

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